On this episode, I’m talking with artist and writer David Hayward aka Nakedpastor.

David is a naturally creative person who uses his art to challenge the status quo, deconstruct dogma, and offer hope he says to those who struggle and suffer under that dogma.

He didn’t become a full time artist until after spending 30 years in the ministry. He tells the story of the epiphany he had that broke him through a false belief that he was trapped in a life he didn’t want. He talks about how one of the biggest shifts he had to make when deciding to become a full time artist what he says was his shitty attitude towards money.

It often takes a big spark to make a life change like that. I was curious what lit the fire that led David on this journey. He shares the beautiful story about the drawing that would become his Sophia book and how she changed his life by helping him to understand himself.


This was recorded live on Instagram on June 24, 2021. Follow @sarahneczwid on Instagram to catch the episodes live each week before they’re officially released. Can’t wait for the release date? Check out the unedited interview on IGTV or YouTube.


You can find David at the links below.

Follow David on Instagram @nakedpastor
Visit him at NakedPastor.com


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